Considering a 29rkle - have a couple of questions

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Considering a 29rkle - have a couple of questions

Postby lakejumper » Sun Jan 13, 2008 2:29 pm

Hi, I've been lurking on the website and have gotten some good info so far. You are a great group of folks. I currently have a Forest River Wildcat 27RL. I have been looking at many brands and floorplans that have two slides and preferably a rear kitchen and king size bed. We need to buy a pre-owned RV to meet our budget. It's a tough order to fill and stay within the tow and hitch weight for our tow vehicle. I found a slightly used 2006 Cardinal 29RKLE. It seems as though most of you who have this model, like it. It has the floorplan that I like with the rear kitchen and king size bed. The bad part is that it's located about 360 miles away and I am hoping to answer a couple of questions (that didn't get answered by the owner over the phone) before I drive that distance to see it. It has the refridgerator along the back wall and I was wondering if that has been a problem with inside breakage from bouncing. There apparently are shocks/suspension on the trailer but the owner couldn't provide any more details since they are the second owner. I'm not sure if Cardinal included it when ordered or if it's an add-on. I would put an air pinbox on it as I already have one on the Wildcat. It also has a king size bed and I was curious if there's enough room to step out of bed, on the side by the wardrobe, as most have queen size beds. I'd like to keep the king size bed. Some RVs are very tight with the king size bed and also have a small step next to the bed. Lastly, does this model have the enclosed valves for the tanks or are they located by the drain pipe? We will be towing it with a 2004 Chevy 2500HD Duramax 4X4 and will most likely put air bags on it to handle the extra pin weight. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: Considering a 29rkle - have a couple of questions

Postby jennyt » Sun Jan 13, 2008 2:43 pm

lakejumper wrote: It also has a king size bed and I was curious if there's enough room to step out of bed, on the side by the wardrobe, as most have queen size beds. I'd like to keep the king size bed. ciated.


Firstly - Welcome and hopefully you will get all your questions answered. I can only answer to the King bed seeing as we have one! :wink: I've seen models with both the King and the Queen. Of course there is definitely more room to maneuver around the queen. I can get around the side of the bed fine by the wardrobe to get in and out of bed. When you make the bed there is definitely limited room on that side to pull a fitted sheet over the mattress and I have to admit that I often have to get Scott to help me as it's not an easy thing to accomplish. That said, if we had to do it over again, we would still get the King, to me the minuses outweight the plus of having the King - it really makes it a home from home for us.

Good luck with whatever you decide . That model is VERY popular - I don't think you would be disappointed with it.
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Postby Mike Clay » Sun Jan 13, 2008 2:46 pm

I have a 2006 RKLE the rk stand for rear kitchen. We love it plus we have the king size bed and no problems getting around it. Im 6'2" and 235 lbs so im not real tiny. The only problem with the fridge in the back is when the slide is in you cant get to it. Just asked Susanna if she has any problems making the bed and she said no.
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Postby Luizianna » Sun Jan 13, 2008 3:14 pm

We have a king size bed, and I sleep on the side by the closet. I'm no skinny mini but I have no probs getting in or out and none making up the bed either. We love ours!


Oh yeh....Welcome to the club!!!
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Postby Double D's » Sun Jan 13, 2008 4:07 pm

Good Evening, Lakejumper! We have that same floor plan, and LOVE it! Ordered in March of '06, but came in June of '06 as an '07.. Can't get to the fridge without running the slides out, as Mike says, but that is no big deal for us - we just pull into a spot large enough to run the slides out, and back on our way. We have never had a refrigerator door jump open while running down the road, or anything broken. The Trail Air and suspension really seem to take care of the bouncing that we had heard about with rear kitchens. In fact, I have things sitting on my counters at all times (with the rubber grid things underneath) and they don't even slide off the counter while traveling. We have the queen bed, but others have answered your questions about that.. LOTS of counter space and storage in this floor plan.. It was a MUST have, as I love to cook, even when traveling. Good luck in your decision, and hope to see you down the road. Donna (and Dennis)
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Postby Don Wilson » Sun Jan 13, 2008 5:41 pm

Lakejumper,

Welcome to the Cardinal RV Club!

Good luck on the purchase of the Cardinal! If there is anything any of us can do to help you with information about the Bird that you are looking don't hesitate to get on the website and Ask??

What are the issues with the trailer you are looking at? If they are shocks they will look just like the shocks on a car or box trailer. This is what I have on my 04 29WBLX. The center point suspension system by trailair is mounted between the spings behind the tires. If you go to Fifth Wheel section and the posting of Suspension Upgrade started Mar 07 and go to the last post on page one by Ol'Bird and you will see a picture of the center point suspension system. Hope this helps out!

I noticed you are from Northern California and we are having a CA/NV Rally. Please check it out in the Southwest Rally section Check Out the Cardinal Rally we are having in Jackson, California on April 25, 26, 27, 2008. Please join us if you can!

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Postby lakejumper » Tue Jan 15, 2008 4:57 pm

Thanks for the warm welcom and all of your responses. I'm looking forward to seeing the RV this weekend. Just a little concerned about pulling it through the mountains on the return trip as there is light snow in the forecast! That is if we buy it. I'll keep you posted. Oh, just one more question...does this model have the walk-in level floor shower or does it have the tub combination or lip to step over?

Thanks again!

Hilary
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Postby Mike Clay » Tue Jan 15, 2008 4:59 pm

Mine has the shower but a lip to step over
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Postby Double D's » Tue Jan 15, 2008 6:56 pm

Ours has the lip edged shower as well.. I believe that the tub one was an option when we ordered ours, so don't know what you will find out when you get there. Good luck! And drive safely. Donna
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Postby Olbird » Tue Jan 15, 2008 7:40 pm

Hello Hilary,

Welcome to the club, Cardinal gives you a choice of two types of shower / tub, the shower only has the 4" small step over to get in the shower with a glass door. The garden tub type has about a 15" high tub with shower also with a glass door.

Just depends on what was ordered when the unit was built, good luck and do not worry about a little lite snow on the highways these thing pull great.
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Postby lakejumper » Tue Jan 15, 2008 8:07 pm

Thanks George and Julie. I was also wondering if this model has windows that open in the bedroom slide-out or if the window above the dresser opens and has a screen. I know that it usually is an emergency exit but sometimes they have a screen so you can leave it open.
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Postby Don Wilson » Tue Jan 15, 2008 8:50 pm

Hilary,

There are two small windows, one on each side of the Walls of the bed slideout. They slide up and down. The window over the dresser in my unit has crank out windows and has screens on the inside.

Good luck on the purchase of the trailer! I hope the trailer is just what you are looking for and you work out the details with the current owner!

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Postby Double D's » Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:08 pm

Hilary, our Rig has thermopane windows and they do not come with the slide up or crank out style. Our small one on either side of the bed and the one over the dresser are all are "slide by" windows, as are all of the windows in the camper. We have found however that with the ceiling vent open, even on the hottest nights, with running the 'Fantastic Fan' in the kitchen area it is plenty comfortable in the bedroom for sleeping. We really wanted the Thermopane windows and I was a bit upset when our rig came and they were not awning type. But this was a tradeoff and we are VERY glad we did order out the thermopanes. At any rate, the windows beside the bed are pretty small. Donna
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Postby david_iona » Wed Jan 16, 2008 10:30 am

We also have the 29RKLE (05) model and love the rear kitchen. No major issues when towing except when we have not fully latched a rear cabinet door or some other failure on our part to properly secure the coach for travel.
I have recently downsized the king bed to a queen because we wanted more walk around space and really had no need for a king bed. Our shower has the garden tub it is about 10 inches up from the floor and not an issue at this time for us. I am sure I could easily convert from a garden tub to standard shower stall in the future if the need arises. We have made some small changes to our coach as have some of the others on this site. I lowered the TV cabinet down to where the desk used to be and converted the old slot to storage with shelves. I added a quarter turn ball valve to the slide pump to isolate the bedroom slide when we stop for lunch and extend just the larger slide out. They are easy and fun to work on and customize to your preferences and there are lots of fine folks here to help guide the way.
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