Check your Exhaust Fuid???

[bfast54]

OK, I went to the Detroit Auto Show, a couple of weeks ago, and cought up on the "Newest Buzz" auto/truck wise. Can you Believe they are now using Disel Exhaust Fluid,(D.E.F.) in the upcomming 2011 Trucks, I.E. Ford, and Dodge !!!!!!
It works in the Exhaust to combine with the emissions , and through VO-DOO magic, It changes the Exhaust Nitric Oxide, into Nitrigen, and Water!!


I am sure most of us remember the old "your Muffler Bearing needs replaced", or "Your blinker fluid is low" ..well coming soon ......."Your Exhaust Fluid could be low"

What say you all..............Have we finally LOST IT ?????????????????

[stevesmith]

Many rigs are using similar systems. Company I work for has several newer tractors using a "regen" system with urea and water.

[snoking]

Ford and Chevy only at this point. Dodge pickups will/do not have it at this point. The Dodge chassis cabs are rummored to have the urea injection. Chris

[bfast54]

Ford and Chevy only at this point. Dodge pickups will/do not have it at this point. The Dodge chassis cabs are rummored to have the urea injection. Chris

No rumor, the Dodge chassis cab dump truck, at the show had it..that's how I noticed it.

[PaulandTammy]

From what I understand the 2011 Cummins will have urea. The 2010 does not. From what the Dodge dealer told me this week the 2011 Models will be out early this year. I like the 2010s but the boss says not yet.

[snoking]

From what I understand the 2011 Cummins will have urea. The 2010 does not. From what the Dodge dealer told me this week the 2011 Models will be out early this year. I like the 2010s but the boss says not yet.

Yeah, it may be the time to buy a new Dodge.
http://list.priceweber.com/cummins/td/a ... facts.html

This does not say what is going to happen in 2011.

I would really like to find a low mile 4x4 quad cab, six speed manual, long box 2006-2007 5.9 Laramie model Dodge 3500 single rear wheel.

Chris

[PokyJoe 48]

Reminds me when I had a 54 Buick with destroked windshield wipers for faster operation, and a louvered oil pan for better cooling, and then I put in the full race muffler bearings. And can't forget the throser rod and polished kunifil pins.

[Mike Clay]

From what i understand the pickups will get about 3,500 to 7,000 miles on a tank of urea going to be interesting.

[Chief409]

From what i understand the pickups will get about 3,500 to 7,000 miles on a tank of urea going to be interesting.

And ain't THAT gonna be interesting until the stations/parts stores in Podunk, USA start carrying urea. And you have used the last of your supply up.

[Mike Clay]

I know, the lower numbers is what you will get while towning. ROFL your first mod will be a larger urea tank sheesh.

[bfast54]

Yea, "Ain't it something" !!! The manufacturers say a tank "should " last until you ned a oil change........right

How many times have we heard something like that??? Jethro out in Po-Dunk middle of know-where ain't gonna have a clue , when we roll in there with our "low warning light" flashing, and say "I need urea" , Heck, he will send you to the Farm -Feed store!!

[Mike Clay]

You will be able to buy it and fill the tank yourself but still what a hassle. I know with the Chevy trucks you will get three warnings: getting low, low, out and now in limp mode

[tschmalz]

Urea!!! That's the stuff they used to try and blow up the World Trade Center. You will probably have to get some type of special license to purchase the stuff and then they will charge some type of tax. What will they think of next?

[Mike Clay]

DEF is a high purity solution of 32.5% urea in deionized water. Urea is a colorless, odorless, non-hazardous, non-flammable, non-combustible crystalline solid made from natural gas, with a molecular weight of 60 and molecular formula of (NH2)2CO. Urea is a very large commodity with about 130 million tons used globally as a fertilizer. The Engine Manufacturers Association has estimated the US DEF demand at 50 million gallons in 2010 rising to 750 million gallons in 2015 and 1.3 billion gallons in 2019.

Here is an interesting pdf file DEF

[stevesmith]

DEF is a high purity solution of 32.5% urea in deionized water. Urea is a colorless, odorless, non-hazardous, non-flammable, non-combustible crystalline solid made from natural gas, with a molecular weight of 60 and molecular formula of (NH2)2CO. Urea is a very large commodity with about 130 million tons used globally as a fertilizer. The Engine Manufacturers Association has estimated the US DEF demand at 50 million gallons in 2010 rising to 750 million gallons in 2015 and 1.3 billion gallons in 2019.

Here is an interesting pdf file DEF