Long crank time starting 6.0 PSD

[Chief409]

Glad to hear that it was something simple!

[risham]

A friend of mine had the same trouble turned out the return fuel line was the culprit. The insides of the line collapsed. Not for sure if this is your problem but something to check.

[rpfan]

Here IS where to look. Just went thru it after replacing the fuel pump, that worked for 2 days. Have the FICM (fuel injection control modual) checked. It should be at 48 volts. Any less and it will give a hard start and run poorly when cold. Any dealer can check it. They are not cheap to replace but, There is a fix that can be done for free if you or someone you know can solder. I have it in a pdf file, anyone that wants it can PM me their email address and I will send it to you. My bro in law is an electronics wiz. I had him fix mine. Truck starts and runs fine now

Rich

[Samsbird]

I have been doing alot of research on the REV-X product that you add to the oil, alot of people are claiming (guy's with 6.0 powerstrokes) that it really does work. The related problems are longer cranking times and surging and they claim that this stuff is the real deal. Google it, visit the powerstroke forums and read up on it, this may just solve the issue that you are experiencing. It's not cheap, $33.00 for the recommended 8 ounces but, if it works then it's money well spent. I'm usually skepticle about marvel snake oils but, I have ordered some and will let you know how it pans out.

Randall

[rpfan]

Hey Randall, Sure would like to see some pics of the 2 Mustangs!

Rich

[Samsbird]

Hey Rich, I'll see if I can figure out how to post them. I'm not the best when it comes to computers.

Randall

[bigbunkhouse]

Hey Randall, Sure would like to see some pics of the 2 Mustangs!

Rich

me too----me too

[WVcampers]

The pics will be nice but..........I want to go for a ride

[paul7x57mm]

Strange thing happened over the past 2 days. I turned the key & waited for the glow plug to finish and hit the key, the engine started in about 2 seconds just like it used to do. WOW I was shocked by the way it started. Later on, it did the same thing. This morning it started well again. At the end of today when I was leaving for home, it took longer to start but still pretty quick. The only thing different was that I took a longer road trip with the bird this past weekend.

I am guessing that I blew the cob webs out or what ever was sucking air or leaking or clogged worked it self out? I will monitor and see if it continues.

[dieselfreak21]

I'm no experts on the 6.0 liter but there injectors are know to fail alot, several of my friends that used to own then had to put in at least 1 to a whole set of injectors. When the injectors were failing in my truck I had longer start issues as well. The HUEI system they put in those is a nightmare. Besides the control unit the high pressure oil pump might be at fault as well. The dealers in the area aren't that great, Especially in our area. If the computer doesn't tell them what is wrong they are clueless. You might give MCS performance diesel in Pacific a call 636-451-4144. They are primarily cummins but they do work on them all and fairly knowledgable. Ask to speak with Keith he is the owner. Tell him him I referred you. I would look at the site recommended as well and there is another devoted to fords but i don't remember it name at the moment. If you can get someone that is willing to talk to you Broadway ford in the city is fairly knowledgeable but they deal with mostly medium and heavy duty but the put that motor in the medium duties for a while. Pundmann ford isn't to bad on diesels either up in st charles.

Not to start a brand war but for about 10k you could always drop a cummins in it and have the perfect truck. If I have any more problems with my dodge the motor just might find its self in a ford body before to long.

[paul7x57mm]

Thanks for the info, it started acting up again. It likes to start when i release the key. If i crank it 3 sec then start over it fires right up. Seems like it is a pressure issue.

[Diesel Dave 04]

Paul It does sound like a pressure issue, I see it is a 06, do you know if the fitting was eve changed on the High pressure pump? they had a bad fitting that would leak, but it would cause a long crank or even a no start hot. get some one with a scan tool and watch the IPR and the IPR duty cycle and see how high the duty cycle goes and how high the injection pressure is, if the pressure dont build fast then somthing is leaking down in the high pressure oil sys. under the valve covers there are oil plugs in the oil rail that leak and cause this long crank also.

[paul7x57mm]

My long crank time appears to be fixed after being towed to the dealer. It cost me but not as bad as they wanted to charge me. I drove to my local home depot store and when I came out, the truck would not start. I tried several times before calling a tow truck. The dealer found that my high pressure fitting was leeking as well as the stand pipes under the valve covers. They replaced the stand pipes and plugs & High pressure fitting. They told me that the fitting was covered under my warranty but the stand pipes were not. The wanted to charge me $890 for the repair. I argued with them that these were internal engine componets and should be covered under my base care warranty. They told me that the stand pipes were not a listed item so I asked to speak with the service manager and they said the they would have him call me. I got a phone call back from the same guy about 15 minutes later and they reduced the price down to $300. Wow

Here is what happened - Right before my original warranty ran out, I took it in and complained about long starts. They could not find anything wrong because no codes came up in the computer. Since then, my warranty ran out but I purchased another Base Care warranty which covered alot less. When they estimated the $890 I told them that this has been going on for a long time and check the service notes. They said that they could now reduce the cost. My truck now starts like a new one. It also seems to run better.

I learned that if your warranty is close to expiring and you think something is not working correctly to have it evaluated. You can use the service notes in your favor to argue with.

[Chief409]

Paul, thanks for the tip about the Service Notes! A question though. Do you know if notes are entered into the computer system so all the dealers have access, or are they kept locally.

[paul7x57mm]

I do not know for sure about that but you get a copy of the work order explaining what they did and checked. Take it with you to show them. In my case, I went to the same dealer for the lonk crank issue.