Electrical Help Needed!
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Electrical Help Needed!
Ok, I need some electrical help. Out of the clear blue sky the 120v receptacle on the road side along with the 2 lights. Then the receptacles in the kitchen and the frig all went dead. Doing some testing I have found that by putting a volt meter on the hot and the ground (not the common) I get 120v. I looked at the wiring diagrams posted on this site and it refers to a junction box that is attached to the frame. Can someone give me a clue where? I am trying not to remove all the pans.
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Wayne ........need more information.....were/are you hooked up to shore power or generator when you lost power??..........did I read correctly that this was a progressive loss of power to these recepticals and frig.??
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We're hooked up to shore power. Really didn't notice a progressive loss just not there. The receptacles in the front half of the trailer work fine. I replaced the GFI outlet and the breaker. No change. Pulled ALL the receptacles, they look fine. Disconnected them no change. Disconnected the frig- no change. Disconnected the light fixtures- No change. The only plugs that do work in the rear half are the two on the back wall. All others read that they have a faulty common.
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I'll try that tomorrow. But the A/C is working and the surge protector hasn't indicated anything wrong.campswithcritters wrote:Is it possible to use a 30 amp reducer and try power from a different source? I had this happen in Oklahoma once and it was the parks 50 amp problem. Maybe a different site if no 30 in the same box.
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Hey thanks for trying. I was thinking the same thing but I was hoping someone knew for sure. When I find it I'll post my findings. Maybe save someone somecampswithcritters wrote:Just guessing at location of the junction box, seems they would put it near either the shore power inlet or the breaker box/converter area. Kinda of a dice game. Sorry can't think of anything else.
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Although I'm by no means an electrician it does sound like a loose wire at a junction box........let us know what you found....good luck...........what a pain...especially in a new 5er!!
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Hello Wayne,
I have found in my unit that the juction boxes are located above the floor and not under in the frame area.
Look behind cabinet walls for a false wall or in a corner.
You said you have 120 volts between ground and hot, without getting too deep here ground (bare copper)and common ( white) are the same. However they are two different wires running to each of your outlets, if you do not have 110 volts at the outlets between the hot and common that means that the common line (white) wire came loose. Most likely it came loose inside the outlets because of the way wires connect to the outlets. I have a picture posted on the site of the inside of a outlet, the wires push onto clips inside the outlet box. From the 110 volt breaker panel power goes to a outlet and the connection is push onto the outlet lugs and then goes to the next outlet, they put many outlets on the same breaker. Many times they splice and use the outlet boxes as a juction box and push two wires onto the outlet lugs, this may be the spot the common wire came loose going to the next outlet. So start checking at each outlet and try to find a outlet working on the same breaker this may be the point of a bad connection to the next outlet box.
George:
I have found in my unit that the juction boxes are located above the floor and not under in the frame area.
Look behind cabinet walls for a false wall or in a corner.
You said you have 120 volts between ground and hot, without getting too deep here ground (bare copper)and common ( white) are the same. However they are two different wires running to each of your outlets, if you do not have 110 volts at the outlets between the hot and common that means that the common line (white) wire came loose. Most likely it came loose inside the outlets because of the way wires connect to the outlets. I have a picture posted on the site of the inside of a outlet, the wires push onto clips inside the outlet box. From the 110 volt breaker panel power goes to a outlet and the connection is push onto the outlet lugs and then goes to the next outlet, they put many outlets on the same breaker. Many times they splice and use the outlet boxes as a juction box and push two wires onto the outlet lugs, this may be the spot the common wire came loose going to the next outlet. So start checking at each outlet and try to find a outlet working on the same breaker this may be the point of a bad connection to the next outlet box.
George:
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re set all breahers start checking at the outlets that work . Every circuit should have a seperate neutral (white wire) you might check with one circuit on at a time .The frig is a seperate circuit and the water heater.
I would plug the trailer into a GFCI cord to do your testing it could save your Life. I've been hit by a lot of neutrals. Check the white wires at the panel may be loose
Good luck Wayne
re set all breahers start checking at the outlets that work . Every circuit should have a seperate neutral (white wire) you might check with one circuit on at a time .The frig is a seperate circuit and the water heater.
I would plug the trailer into a GFCI cord to do your testing it could save your Life. I've been hit by a lot of neutrals. Check the white wires at the panel may be loose
Good luck Wayne
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YesRob & Cathy wrote:Does the microwave work? If you have two air conditioners are they both working?
Rob
YesRob & Cathy wrote:Have you tried cycling the 50a mains?
Rob
I have pulled all of the outlets, disconnected them and found the same thing (open common). The only plugs that work in the rear half is the two at the very rear. I have pulled most of the pans under the trailer. So far nothing. I am almost to the rear of the trailer. I'll keep you posted.
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